Monday, 7 May 2012

Wk 10 Discussion Post


Why, in your view, did the South lose the Civil War?

16 comments:

  1. The South lost the war for a number of reasons. First, as is often said, the North were ultimately able to bring superior resources to the conflict as a direct result of further industrialization and greater population. The South did not have such a pool of “limited” resources to draw on and eventually this took its toll. Second, the North took advantage of a stronger, more centralised leadership, which could make consistent policy and military decisions. The creation of a single currency is representative of this. In comparison, since the Southern States were fighting for their own individual rights, they would never have this homogeneity and coordination. Third, the Northern states would take advantage of these strengths and wage a style of “total war” which the South could not possibly win. Finally, while Northern soldiers generally agreed on what they were fighting for, the social structure of the South created an environment in which many common non-slaveholding soldiers felt they were fighting someone else’s war, since many plantation owners did not participate. This would lead to poor morale amongst Southern ranks. Ultimately, the North did not win the war on the battlefield, rather through engaging its “home front” resources more fully, and demolishing that of the South.

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  2. The South lost the Civil War due to a myriad of factors, largely due to division on the home front caused by demoralization from loss of battles, and divisions between slave-owning and non-slave owning whites. Secondly due to superior resources in the North, and the strong centralization and political leadership that was able to use those resources effectively. Thirdly by the willingness of the North to engage in a ‘hard war’, which the South was unable to compete with, due to battles being fought on Southern land, and the Northern encroachment further South.

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  3. The outcome of the Civil War was not just a case of the North's victories or the South's defeats, but was instead cause by numerous reasons. To begin with, the North had far superior resources. This included a much larger population, 9 times more industrial output and more extensive railroad infrastructure. The North was also seen to have better leadership than the South, with a lack of communication between Richmond and the Southern states and Davis was unable to mobilise the Southern cause to the effect of Lincoln. The military defeats of the South also caused a decline in morale in the South and a lack of commitment to their justification of the war.

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  4. The South lost the civil war for the following reasons. First the south had lesser soldiers and resource, and the North had far more superior numbers in recourses and soldiers, especially after the Emancipation Proclamation. Secondly, the South cannot use its manpower effectively, and due to the large numbers of southern populations are slaves and non-slave owners. Thirdly, as people often argue, the Civil war can go both ways, south lose in some battles they can’t afford lose, such as Antietam and Gettysburg. At last is the leadership of the North, Abraham Lincoln knows exactly what to do to win the War, and he knows the strength and weakness of the North. He understands the South cannot afford to go to a total war, because the south lack the resources compare to the north.

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  5. As Tim and James Macpherson argued, the South’s loss was not inevitable and was contingent on many factors, some of which were based on pure luck. Arguments such as the ‘internal conflict’ thesis are largely limited by the fact that the North also endured crippling divisions such as that exemplified in the 1863 New York Draft riots. A significant factor for the South’s loss was the North’s shift in war strategy from a limited war into total warfare. This enabled the North to harness its advances in centralization, industry and resources to its strategic advantage. The shift to total warfare in conjunction with the North’s ability to secure strategic victories in Antietam and Gettysburg were crucial factors that greatly contributed to the South’s loss.

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  7. There is no simple answer as to why the South lost the Civil War. Internal factors have been suggested, such as divisions between slave holding and non-slave holding whites, Jefferson Davis’ difficulty to secure centralized command and mistakes of Southern Generals. Just as important are the external factors of Northern materiel and numerical superiority, and General Grant and Sherman’s decision to wage a war of conquest on the South; Sherman’s ‘March to the Sea’ is arguably the first instance of modern total warfare. Ultimately, all of these forces play a role in the Southern defeat. As James McPherson states: rather than generalizing, we must ‘study instead the contingency that hung over each military campaign, each battle, each election, each decision of the war.’

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  8. To say only that the South lost the war is to take a considerably limited view of the conflict, and to disregard the many ways in which the North pressed for victory and eventually gained it. While the South certainly suffered from internal conflict and instability, so too did the North, and had the outcome of the Civil War been reversed a case for the North losing because of internal problems could just have easily been made. However it was the North's decision to engage in a strategy of 'total war' which crippled the South's resources and morale, and it was this tactic, together with a certain amount of luck in key moments and unquestionably better resources which led to the North's final victory over the South.

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  9. There are a number of reasons as to why the South lost the war. The South had destabilising problems at home, internal divisions and conflicts between different factions and the lack of a centralised power base to lead the South. The South were also disadvantaged by the simple fact they possessed less numbers and resources than the North. If we are to look at why the South lost it is also important to look at why the North won; the North possessed a centralised base of power, they were victorious at crucial battles in the war (ie. Gettysburg) and their strategy of “total war” were key factors in determining the outcome of the war.

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  10. There is no easy answer to the question of why the South lost the Civil War, and indeed the outcome could have been very different. However the South were disadvantaged in the conflict in a number of ways; due to their policy of secession the South was divided and lacked a strong central governmental and organisational force, also the South lacked the industrial power of the North and as such did not have the resources to equal the North’s attack. The South also had issues with the fact that the majority of soldiers were non-slaveholders, causing issues of morale and commitment to a war defending the institution of slavery. In these ways the South was disadvantaged and as such their loss to the North was made possible, but not inevitable.

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  11. There are numerous factors that contributed to the South losing the Civil War. Throughout the war there was the potential for either side to win or lose. This idea is demonstrated in key moments in the war, such as the battle of Gettysburg. Both sides had a strong sense of leadership in different areas and internal conflict. By 1865, the North's decision to adopt the idea of a 'total war' coupled with the South's high loss of morale, lack of vital resources and subsequent military defeats played a decisive role in determine the outcome of the war. It was due to these factors which resulted in the south losing the war.

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  12. The South lost the war due to many factors,, poor military and governmental leadership, fewer resources and poorer organisation of forces. These factors, however, did not make the loss of the South inevitable, as what can be said of the problems the South experienced during the war can also be said of the North. The defeat of the South eventually culminates in the combination of these factors with military losses and the loss of faith that resulted from these losses, shortages and problems.

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  13. The South lost the War for numerous reasons. Firstly, the superior, overall unity of the the North meant a singular, more consolidated opposition to the South. As is evident by the poor militaristic organisation and suffering of the Southern armies later in the War against Union forces, they were unable to organise themselves as a legitimate force with unified goals. Secondly, the further developed and industrialised North proved to be more resourceful than the South. In the face of continuous defeat, the South could not redeem themselves as they lacked the manpower and resources to do so.

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  14. The Southern loss in the Civil War can be examined from numerous viewpoints, looking at both internal conflicts and as well as the external force of the North. Internally, the Southern political and military leadership were by large conflicted and divided, at least comparatively to the North. Furthermore, the Northern resources far outweighed that of the Southern forces, which affected their ability to continue their fighting. This therefore impacted on their ability to win, thus leading to a loss of morale amongst the South. However, it is important to address a large factor of reversibility and similarity of problems for the North. Yet having said this, their ability to overcome, or at least deal with, such problems represents a defining factor in their victory.

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  15. Ultimately, the south lost the civil war for a number of reasons. Firstly, economically, the North were far superior, this included, industry and man power. Therefore, they were able to sustain the war effort, while maintaining stability in the civilian sphere. Similarly the Northern ‘War Machine’ was far more productive, resulting in a superior output of weapons and general supplies. On top of this Northern Naval supremacy was able to blockade southern ports, thereby making the prosperous export industry of cotton ineffective, as a revenue raising source.
    The Southern political system based on the foundation of states’ rights, meant that Davis had a tough time centralizing and controlling the war effort, which is the complete opposite to Lincoln, who was able to nationalize the railways, and centrally govern the Union, very effectively. This combined, with the fact that a large amount of Confederate troops were in fact not very dependent on Slave owning, which meant that they did not necessarily have as much resolve to see out the fighting as may be expected.
    The Northern “total war” approach combined with the above factors to severely reduce the moral of Southern civilians and soldiers, terrorising all members of society into submission. These are among many reasons why the south lost the war. However most importantly was the fact that Pickett’s charge at the Battle of Gettysburg was unsuccessful, and extremely damaging for Southern numbers and moral.

    Tom hardham

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  16. The South lost the Civil War due to a combination of factors. Not only were they losing major battles to the North, such as Antietam and Gettysburg, but the families and towns they had left behind were beginning to crumble as a result of the ongoing war. Loss of motivation amongst Southern soldiers became a major issue, and when Sherman made the decision to wage total war on the South, they simply did not have the resources or will power to successfully defend themselves.

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